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NEW Plan View of Proposal

In-N-Out revised their site plan (their third) in June 2018 to address several City Planning Division/Commission concerns, including building orientation. The graphic below has been edited and annotated for clarity. Click here to see the new site plan in full detail.

The revised site plan has 54 parking places (10 less than previous), and queue capacity of 28 cars (6 more than previous). Note that the two entrances and exits are Almarida and Hamilton. Hamilton avenue will likely be used as the primary entry point for the drive-thru.

Unfortunately, because of congestion on Hamilton, many cars will likely EXIT on Almarida, turn left (even if posted with "No Left Turn" signs), and enter the Hamann Park neighborhood.

 

Note the following points.

  • The complex arrangements of lanes at the Hwy. 17 SB exit contributes to dangerous "weaving" in Hamilton westbound lanes between Salmar and Almarida.
  • Cross traffic at the Almarida entry/exit will conflict with Almarida southbound traffic.
  • Traffic entering and exiting In-N-Out at Almarida will conflict with resident access to the Franciscan Apartments.
  • At peak times, traffic exiting Hwy. 17 would primarily use the Hamilton entry point, and can completely block the intersections at Salmar, Almarida, and Creekside.
  • U-Turns at Almarida for Hamilton Avenue eastbound traffic will increase congestion at the intersection and for traffic on Hamiltom Avenue westbound.
  • Note the proximity to Kohl’s, Bed Bath & Beyond and Panera (across the street) – In-N-Out workers will use their parking areas, and patrons, during peak periods or overflow, will also use these parking areas.
  • Pedestrian traffic from the Kohl’s and Bed Bath & Beyond parking areas will be at risk when crossing Almarida, and will add to the general traffic congestion.
  • Patrons parking at the In-N-Out site and going inside the buidling will primarily use the two crosswalks that cross the drive-thru lane – both going into and exiting the In-N-Out building. This can be dangerous.


Typically, In-N-Out locations (at least in the south Bay Area) are located within a large shopping center without direct access from a main street, and where there are typically no immediately adjacent residential areas.

This means that customer drives into parking lot of a shopping center first, before parking or entering drive-through area. This is not the case at the Hamilton/Almarida site, where Access is directly from Hamilton, a main thoroughfare.  

Examples of typical In-N-Out shopping center locations:

1. Coleman and 880 just south of airport. Location is within the 20 acre Lowe's shopping center. Customers exit off of Coleman onto Newhall and then pull into the shopping center. No direct access from Coleman. No residential immediately nearby.

2. Mercado location in Santa Clara. This is in the Mercado shopping area that includes AMC Mercado, and near Mission College off of Great American Parkway and 101. You drive to the shopping center on a side road and then pull into the center parking lot to access In-N-Out. No direct access from main thoroughfare. No residential nearby.

3. Santa Teresa location, south of Blossom Hill Road in south San Jose. Again, this is located within Kohl's shopping center parking lot. Need to drive into shopping center parking lot and then get access to In-N-Out.

4. Capital Expressway and Tully Road in southeast San Jose. Located within a Safeway shopping center parking lot. No direct access from Capital Expressway. Need to drive into center parking lot to access In-N-Out.

Updated July 23, 2018 | Website Administrator – Charles Drew